Forum topic: Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood
Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood
Adrian Day
30 Nov 2020 23:32 #5774
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I'm surprised Ian Barnes said that as every address in every road in the Fox Lane low traffic neighbourhood is accessible by vehicle. We need to reduce the total amount of traffic on the roads so those that must drive are able to do so.
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PGC Webmaster
02 Dec 2020 19:34 #5778
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The last comment in this thread, by Roger Dougall, has been deleted, as it contains no sensible discussion of the pros and cons, just attacks people without any evidence. This forum is for civilised debate only.
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roger dougall
02 Dec 2020 22:35 #5779
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I think you'll find it contained a sensible alteration to the camera layout to improve response times for emergency vehicles.This would be considered surely to be a pro
It also underlined the sensible suggestion for change to a scheme mentioned by Mr Littman so that we can all benefit under a revised scheme,another pro.
It also underlined the sensible suggestion for change to a scheme mentioned by Mr Littman so that we can all benefit under a revised scheme,another pro.
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Karl Brown
04 Dec 2020 10:03 #5783
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Neil, I certainly wouldn’t view two, or more, opposing web sites as a problem and certainly not reflective of a divided / dividing community. Challenge, reflect, improve are fundamentals of good management and ideally democracy. Where I do see division and the cause of that division is where that debate, and often the associated tactics, is not conducive to respectful evidenced based to and fro.
There have been many years of it locally, perhaps peaking with one no-change member standing and swearing in a host church, later publically abusing others, including myself; having groups outside a consulting room haranguing prospective female attendees pre entry; people from outside the community working overtly or covertly to press their own agenda onto that community, often with the result, intended or otherwise, to divide it; and the seemingly never ending poisoning of the well on social media, very often by people who really should know a whole, lot better.
To seek to divide a community and then to argue it is being divided might be the real problem at hand.
There have been many years of it locally, perhaps peaking with one no-change member standing and swearing in a host church, later publically abusing others, including myself; having groups outside a consulting room haranguing prospective female attendees pre entry; people from outside the community working overtly or covertly to press their own agenda onto that community, often with the result, intended or otherwise, to divide it; and the seemingly never ending poisoning of the well on social media, very often by people who really should know a whole, lot better.
To seek to divide a community and then to argue it is being divided might be the real problem at hand.
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Adrian Day
07 Dec 2020 09:53 #5787
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People who drive short distances locally often under-estimate how quick it can be to walk or cycle the same journey (evidenced anecdotally) . These helpful maps show walking and cycling times from the rough centre of the Fox Lane low traffic neighbourhood. Please do download and share with your neighbours on social media. Thanks
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Howard Toshman
10 Dec 2020 07:19 #5791
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I cannot state strongly enough how this LTN has had such a negative impact on the majority of people who live and work in the local area and surrounds.
The petition against the LTN exceeds 5,600 signatures which is far greater than all the groups in favour.
Its killing local business at a time when we as a community should be supporting local business.
The petition against the LTN exceeds 5,600 signatures which is far greater than all the groups in favour.
Its killing local business at a time when we as a community should be supporting local business.
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Adrian Day
10 Dec 2020 11:27 #5792
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Lots of support locally and wider afield for LTNs
. Full report attached - here's some highlights: A recent survey by Transport for London (TfL)
(August-September 2020) found that 51% of over 1,000
Londoners supported LTNs (both temporary Covid-19
measures and permanent implementation, which would be
subject to further consultations for individual projects),
against 16% who opposed the measure36. Very similar views
(52% vs 19%) were reported by Redfield and Wilton, from a
sample of 2,000 Londoners interviewed in September 2020.
The survey found that support for LTNs is higher amongst
younger Londoners (for example, 57% of 25-34 year olds vs
42% of 55-64 year olds), who have relatively low levels of car
ownership37. As this report was going to press, the
Department for Transport published their own new public
polling finding that over three quarters of people in England
support measures to reduce traffic in their neighbourhoods,
while 65% support reallocation of road space to walking and
cycling (with 24% opposed)38. Protecting the environment in
general is becoming another motivation for supporting these
measures, with more than half of Climate Assembly UK
participants in favour of measures restricting car access to
certain areas, against 22% in opposition.39
(August-September 2020) found that 51% of over 1,000
Londoners supported LTNs (both temporary Covid-19
measures and permanent implementation, which would be
subject to further consultations for individual projects),
against 16% who opposed the measure36. Very similar views
(52% vs 19%) were reported by Redfield and Wilton, from a
sample of 2,000 Londoners interviewed in September 2020.
The survey found that support for LTNs is higher amongst
younger Londoners (for example, 57% of 25-34 year olds vs
42% of 55-64 year olds), who have relatively low levels of car
ownership37. As this report was going to press, the
Department for Transport published their own new public
polling finding that over three quarters of people in England
support measures to reduce traffic in their neighbourhoods,
while 65% support reallocation of road space to walking and
cycling (with 24% opposed)38. Protecting the environment in
general is becoming another motivation for supporting these
measures, with more than half of Climate Assembly UK
participants in favour of measures restricting car access to
certain areas, against 22% in opposition.39
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Adrian Day
10 Dec 2020 13:20 #5794
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https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2020/12/09/selective-concern/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
A great piece on opposition to sustainable travel planning. I do wonder how relevant the final paragraph is to some of the vehement opposition we see to ending high traffic neighbourhoods in Enfield: 'In all these instances, and doubtless in dozens of others up and down the country, it should be quite clear that the ‘concerns’ were never actually about air quality, or about safety, or about delay to the emergency services, or about the loss of road space – they were at root nothing more than a convenient fig leaf to disguise altogether more selfish demands.'
A great piece on opposition to sustainable travel planning. I do wonder how relevant the final paragraph is to some of the vehement opposition we see to ending high traffic neighbourhoods in Enfield: 'In all these instances, and doubtless in dozens of others up and down the country, it should be quite clear that the ‘concerns’ were never actually about air quality, or about safety, or about delay to the emergency services, or about the loss of road space – they were at root nothing more than a convenient fig leaf to disguise altogether more selfish demands.'
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