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Civic movement umbrella body concerned about proposed changes to planning law
PGC Webmaster
12 Dec 2018 18:45 4291
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Civic Voice, a charity which acts as an umbrella body for civic societies in England, is currently preparing to respond to a government consultation on proposed changes to planning law in England. It is seeking the views of its member civic societies and, apparently, of members of the general public. It fears that the proposals might undermine the character of an area and impact on public participation in the planning systemPlease Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Civic movement umbrella body concerned about proposed changes to planning law
Darren Edgar
13 Dec 2018 09:24 4292
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Oh great, organised NIMBYism. Because that's what we need, more brakes and obstruction to growth, recovery and development. Let's stick with all the empty over-supplied shops and hideously expensive under supplied housing.....
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Civic movement umbrella body concerned about proposed changes to planning law
Jane Maggs
18 Dec 2018 12:19 4308
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This is not about NIMBYism, it is more about BIMBY (Beauty In My Back Yard). Permitted development means no planning control by the local council or any opportunity for the council or community to determine whether a development is appropriate to the area, is in keeping or even of good design. This means that control of our neighbourhood is passed from the community to the developer, who may or may not have any interest other than financial.
When a developer obtains planning permission, they have to make a contribution to the council to offset costs around streets, doctors and schools. With permitted development they make no contribution, so can keep all that money as profit and still charge a high rent.
It is clear that more housing is needed, but everyone should be entitled to an appropriate, secure and well built home.
So in Southgate, many of the office blocks have been converted into housing under permitted development. These buildings were built as offices not housing and are not subject to the same housing rules as new build. We can see that some of the developments are high quality, which is welcome, but some look to be far less suitable, particularly for the families being housed there.
Clearly, we do not want empty shops or office space, but what we do need is to be sure any conversions are appropriate, well built and do not negatively impact the rest of the town centre and community.
This is about who controls our local environment – the community and elected representatives or the developers. This is about people who are desperate for a home not having to put up with badly built ugly homes.
When a developer obtains planning permission, they have to make a contribution to the council to offset costs around streets, doctors and schools. With permitted development they make no contribution, so can keep all that money as profit and still charge a high rent.
It is clear that more housing is needed, but everyone should be entitled to an appropriate, secure and well built home.
So in Southgate, many of the office blocks have been converted into housing under permitted development. These buildings were built as offices not housing and are not subject to the same housing rules as new build. We can see that some of the developments are high quality, which is welcome, but some look to be far less suitable, particularly for the families being housed there.
Clearly, we do not want empty shops or office space, but what we do need is to be sure any conversions are appropriate, well built and do not negatively impact the rest of the town centre and community.
This is about who controls our local environment – the community and elected representatives or the developers. This is about people who are desperate for a home not having to put up with badly built ugly homes.
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Civic movement umbrella body concerned about proposed changes to planning law
Darren Edgar
18 Dec 2018 14:39 4309
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BIMBY or BANANA? Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.
Great for keeping everyone's property prices inflated though! <<thumbsup>>
Have you read the full consultation document? I have, now, and responded positively almost across the board.
So the NIMBYs and BANANAs will preside over lots of vacant shops and redundant offices until 1001 tiny details are all satisfied whilst any prospect of an area prospering slowly washes away.
If developers could build whatever fits the Local Plan then PDR wouldn't be much of an issue. But as private individuals have a perverse level of control over the direction of development PDR is needed to bridge the gap. I'd happily scrap PDR if NIMBYism went in the same bin.
Great for keeping everyone's property prices inflated though! <<thumbsup>>
Have you read the full consultation document? I have, now, and responded positively almost across the board.
So the NIMBYs and BANANAs will preside over lots of vacant shops and redundant offices until 1001 tiny details are all satisfied whilst any prospect of an area prospering slowly washes away.
If developers could build whatever fits the Local Plan then PDR wouldn't be much of an issue. But as private individuals have a perverse level of control over the direction of development PDR is needed to bridge the gap. I'd happily scrap PDR if NIMBYism went in the same bin.
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