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Assembly calls on mayor to provide pedestrian crossings at all lights and more public toilets

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26 Jan 2022 18:59 #6358

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This motion from today's London Assembly session will be welcomed by many Palmers Green residents and visitors.

The London Assembly has today called on the mayor of London to fund public realm improvements for Londoners and visitors, in his final consolidated budget for 2022-23.

The Assembly notes:

  • No junction that has signals to control motor traffic should lack a signal-protected pedestrian crossing.
  • That in 2020 all parties on the Assembly spoke warmly about proposals for more free public toilets on the transport system.

Green Party assembly member Caroline Russell, who proposed the budget related motion, said:

“Londoners need loos – we simply don’t have enough. I’ve heard from people deliberately dehydrating themselves, just so they don’t have to face the panic of not finding anywhere to go. This is clearly unacceptable.

“Our cityscape needs an overhaul, we’re a world leading city and should have world-leading facilities for crossing the road, making the experience of getting around our city healthy and safe.

“I’m so glad the Assembly backed my proposal today, so the mayor hears our united voice asking for money for both new toilets and for bringing in crucial pedestrian crossings to make it easier for people to cross our roads and enjoy our city safely.”

The motion was agreed by 12 votes for an 0 against.

Read the full text of the budget related motion.

Source: London Assembly press release 26 January 2022

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Assembly calls on mayor to provide pedestrian crossings at all lights and more public toilets

Neil Littman

27 Jan 2022 07:09 #6359

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Just a reminder why there are no pedestrian lights at Bourne Hill and Green Lanes was due to an objection from TfL who claimed back in 2018 that the cycle lanes caused delays to their bus timetables and this junction was potentially a bottleneck. Think it might be time for them to review the situation.

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Assembly calls on mayor to provide pedestrian crossings at all lights and more public toilets

PGC Webmaster

27 Jan 2022 12:14 #6360

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Neil Littman wrote (message 6359) :

Just a reminder why there are no pedestrian lights at Bourne Hill and Green Lanes was due to an objection from TfL who claimed back in 2018 that the cycle lanes caused delays to their bus timetables and this junction was potentially a bottleneck. Think it might be time for them to review the situation.


...Which is why I illustrated the news with a photo of that very junction.

I agree that it was rejected by TfL during the planning for the bike lanes, but do you have any documentary evidence for saying that "TfL claimed back in 2018 that the cycle lanes caused delays to their bus timetables"? I don't remember seeing this and I was following everything very closely. TfL had already rejected the idea of a pedestrian phase before there was any talk of bike lanes, but not because of buses, but because of the effect on cars and lorries, I thought.

I have heard through Living Streets that a couple of years ago TfL began a process of identifying all lights without a pedestrian phase with the aim of fixing them all. Unfortunately, this programme seems to have been derailed by TfL's financial crisis caused by the post-February 2020 huge drop-off in fares revenue.

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Assembly calls on mayor to provide pedestrian crossings at all lights and more public toilets

Karl Brown

27 Jan 2022 16:29 #6361

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I first heard of a TfL objection from a resident telling me about a petition by the congregation and other attendees of the nearby St Monicas church. That was long before 2018 but related to bus or cars or both at the junction I don’t know. Certainly there has been a long history of various calls for action on pedestrian safety. No question that it’s required.

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Assembly calls on mayor to provide pedestrian crossings at all lights and more public toilets

Jan-Willem Jonker

28 Jan 2022 08:57 #6362

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Pedestrian lights at the crossing of Cannon Hill and Alderman's Hill are long overdue as well. They are necessary because of commuters walking to and from Palmers Green station and, even more importantly, pedestrians that want to access Broomfield Park. Currently, there is no safe access to Broomfield park for e.g. elderly people or children from the West side and a large part of the Northern side.

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