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Palmers Green Triangle after projected Cycle Enfield worksArtist's impression of Palmers Green Triangle after completion of Cycle Enfield works

Work to reconfigure the Palmers Green Triangle area in line with the Cycle Enfield project is due to start in five days time, when the clock will be removed and placed in storage. The actual roadworks will commence a week later, on 17th July.  The bottom part of Aldermans Hill (between Devonshire Road and Green Lanes) will be closed to vehicles approximately three months.

Notice of the closure is included in a letter delivered to addresses in the vicinity.  The letter goes on to say that "Devonshire Road will remain open to vehicles during this time, diversion routes will be displayed on signposts at the junction".  However, there is no information about where the diversion routes will go.

triangle layoutPalmers Green Triangle - click on the plan for a larger version

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Darren Edgar posted a reply
06 Jul 2017 11:43
From a cyclists point of view these look a great improvement. Dividing north and south turning traffic either side of the triangle rather than having to swing right onto Green Lanes like present - which is always congested by parked cars. Nice big cycle boxes too always feel much safer at the front of lines of traffic than tucking in alongside or poking out in front.

Not 100% sure how southbound Green Lanes traffic turns onto Alderman's Hill though??
Colin Younger posted a reply
06 Jul 2017 17:04
It’s not clear to me what the impact on local roads will be of this closure, particularly if the junctions of Green Lanes and Fox Lane and with Broomfield Lane are still being worked on.
The notice in the Enfield Gazette (page 36) gives the diversions as:
Southbound; Green Lanes, Bourne Hill, The Bourne, High St N14, Cannon Hill, Aldermans Hill.
Northbound: Green Lanes, North Circular, Powys Lane, Aldermans Hill.
The note hand delivered locally from the London Highway Alliance says that Devonshire Road will remain open.
PGC Webmaster posted a reply
12 Jul 2017 14:30
While the Triangle end of Aldermans Hill is closed (17 July to 7 October) buses will be diverted as follows:

121
The 121 will not serve any of its normal stops in Green Lanes north of the North Circular or any stops in Aldermans Hill. It will instead be diverted along Bowes Road and Wilmer Way, rejoining its normal route in Cannon Hill.

W6
Towards Edmonton the W6 after the Broomfield Park stop the W6 will be diverted along Grovelands Road, Burford Gardens and Bourne Hill, rejoining its normal route in Hedge Lane. It will not serve the stops at Palmers Green Station, Lodge Drive, Fox Lane or Bourne Hill.
Towards Southgate the W6 will run via Bourne Hill, Caversham Avenue and Old Park Road. It will not serve the following stops: Bourne Hill, Fox Lane, Lodge Drive, Palmers Green Station.

(Thanks to Donald Smith for providing this information)
Colin Younger posted a reply
13 Jul 2017 22:14
What about the 329? There's a notice at the Aldermans Hill/Powys Lane junction (seen driving north) directing the 329 down Aldermans Hill. This implies a Green Lanes closure south of the Triangle, but directs it down to the closed Triangle unless it too will use the Lakes estate rat runs. Perhaps Devonshire Road..... Obviously there must be more information about this apparent conundrum.
PGC Webmaster posted a reply
13 Jul 2017 22:40
Colin Younger wrote:

What about the 329? There's a notice at the Aldermans Hill/Powys Lane junction (seen driving north) directing the 329 down Aldermans Hill. This implies a Green Lanes closure south of the Triangle, but directs it down to the closed Triangle unless it too will use the Lakes estate rat runs. Perhaps Devonshire Road..... Obviously there must be more information about this apparent conundrum.


The 329 diversions are overnight (starting at 9pm) this week, when they will be resurfacing the Green Lanes/Broomfield Lane/Oakthorpe Road junction. The 121 will be also be affected and will run via the North Circ and Wilmer Way. The 329 won't be affected by the Triangle work, which starts on the 17th.

This week overnight northbound cars along Green Lanes are being diverted via Ecclesbourne Gardens, Oakthorpe Road, Riverway, The Grove and Lodge Drive.
Bill Linton posted a reply
17 Jul 2017 22:40
Does anyone know, now that the W6 is diverted along Grovelands and Burford, whether one can just hail them as they pass, or do I need to trek either to the Broomfield Park stop or the top of Hedge Lane?
PGC Webmaster posted a reply
22 Jul 2017 00:58
Bill Linton wrote:

Does anyone know, now that the W6 is diverted along Grovelands and Burford, whether one can just hail them as they pass, or do I need to trek either to the Broomfield Park stop or the top of Hedge Lane?


Unfortunately, there is no hail and ride on the W6 diversion route. The hail and ride stops at the top of Hedge Lane and the "Broomfield Park" stops on Aldermans Hill are in use, but the bus won't stop anywhere in between.

Donald Smith suggests complaining to TfL - 0343 222 1234 option 6.
Bill Linton posted a reply
22 Jul 2017 11:55
I successfully hailed one at the Fox Lane/Grovelands junction on Wednesday morning, and got let off at the Fox Lane/Caversham junction on the way back.

It would be quite odd if a route with hail and ride sections elsewhere didn't permit hailing on such a long stopless section.
Bill Linton posted a reply
09 Aug 2017 23:21
The temporary route for the W6 is supposed to be via Grovelands Rd & Burford Gardens in one direction and Caversham Ave and Old Park Rd inthe other. I look out over the Fox Lane/Grovelands/Burford junction - and today the W6 has been zipping across in both directions! Anyone know what's going on? A diversion from a diversion is quite unusual!
Bill Linton posted a reply
10 Aug 2017 11:47
Seems to be back to 'normal' today (Thursday) - at least, no buses going south on Burford/Grovelands.
Darren Edgar posted a reply
27 Nov 2017 09:16
All sounds fantastic to me, and Pin Oak a perfect choice.

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