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fldra new logo 345pxThe committee of Fox Lane & District Residents' Association (FLDRA) has called an extraordinary general meeting (EGM) on 26th January, starting at 8pm, with the aim of agreeing an overhauled version of the Association's constitution and introducing a new code of conduct for members.

The committee has also announced a date for the FLDRA's annual general meeting - 30th March. Both meetings will be held in one of the halls in Burford Gardens adjacent to Palmers Green United Reformed Church.

In an email to members, FLDRA secretary Christian Ignatiou reminds them that in order to avoid any confusion around eligibility to attend, vote or stand for election at the AGM, they need to be up-to-date with their membership subscription (this presumably also applies to attending and voting at the EGM). Subs can be paid by bank transfer, cheque or in cash.

To be eligible to join you need to live within the area bordered by The Bourne, Bourne Hill, Green Lanes, Aldermans Hill, Cannon Hill and High Street.

There is a form for joining on the FLDRA website.

A new constitution with some unusual provisions

The proposed new constitution introduces some new membership categories: in addition to Full Members, there would be Partial Members, Business Members and Special Members - the last named category offering membership to people living outside the strictly defined area who are "individuals in the community that the committee feel the Association would benefit from engaging with".

A feature of the draft constitution which differentiates it from the current constitution and those of comparable associations (eg Winchmore Hill RA) is the introduction of some new (and, some might say, rather onerous) procedures that members will have to go through to join the committee:

All members wishing to stand for election must:

  • At least 10 days prior to the AGM provide:
    • A proposer and seconder (who must both be Full Members at that point)
    • A written representation which will be distributed to the membership (length to be defined by the standing committee)
    • Details of all affiliations to external organisations
    • A written confirmation to adhere to the Association’s code of conduct (pro forma will be provided)
  • As part of the election process, members standing must make an in-person presentation to the membership (length to be defined by standing committee), which will include:
    • Reasons for standing
    • Skills they believe they can bring to the role
    • Their ability to remain impartial and how they would propose to deal with conflicts of interest with particular reference to their affiliations to external organisations
    • A verbal confirmation to adhere to the Association’s code of conduct
    • Address the “Key issues” (The sitting committee will publish a list of “key issues” as part of the AGM notification process that the membership would like to address)

Source: https://foxlane.net/.../proposed-consitution.pdf

On top of this, there are further unusually complicated rules about the process used to elect people to the committee. No-one will be able to be elected without receiving "a min 50% validation vote of members present or by proxy" (proxy votes presumably being cast by the chair or secretary).

An obvious danger with such demanding requirements is that they may put off people who are less confident about verbal or written presentation or nervous about voicing views which might not be universally shared, while in the less stressful environment of a smaller committee meeting they might be able to play a valuable role. This is a pity, because joining committees of associations and societies of various types is an important way in which people lacking experience or confidence can build up valuable work and life skills and providing such opportunities is one of the benefits of the "civic sector".

For an example of a constitution that goes out of its way to welcome diversity we don't need to go very far from Fox Lane. The constitution of BHORA (Broomfield Home-owners' and Residents' Association) includes a section on equal opportunities designed to encourage the widest possible involvement:

Equal Opportunities:

  • The Association wants to involve everyone in the area and will try to overcome any obstacles to people to give their views or become involved in meetings or events.
  • The Association will try to make sure that everyone can feel welcome and safe at events it organises.
  • The Association will challenge any remarks or behaviour that cause offence and makes anyone feel unwelcome.
  • The Association will take positive action to reach those people who are under-represented at meetings and events and will ensure that all members have equal opportunities to attend and take part in in the Association and its events.
  • The Association welcomes the involvement of members of the community who experience exclusion on a day to day basis on grounds of gender, race, ethnic origin, sexuality, disability, religious or political belief, marital status or age.

Source: www.bhora.org/constitution.html

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Karl Brown posted a reply
18 Jan 2022 09:58
All a bit too much Animal Farm I thought when it landed in my tray; that, and an extensive code of conduct, something which never strikes me as a positive flag for any organisations cultural challenges, led me straight to cancelling my subscription.
A previous incarnation of the RA as a SOGL / Conservative party conduit rather than an inclusive local community body highlights the risk. Free wherever possible and accessible to all is inevitably a useful guide to community-centric activities. Some minorities particularly the young may see such implied entry hurdles as unnecessarily high, indeed act as a barrier.
Fortunately the range of individuals and groups in the PG community putting in voluntary effort across a plethora of free and accessible to all activities remains solid and if things go to plan then several more items of good-news should result in the not too distant future.
Adrian Day posted a reply
18 Jan 2022 10:02
Looks a really odd and overly complex set of rules for a body discussing street trees, organising charity collections and having a Christmas raffle. It's perhaps an easier process to become a Parliamentary candidate than get on the committee - yet the committee can invite anyone in the country (world?) to join as a member (or part member, special member, business member....). I wonder how many will bother given there's lots of other organisations doing great work in the community who welcome volunteers with open arms and none of the strictures - thinking of Palmers Green Action Team, Friends of Broomfield Park, Talkies Cinema and Friends of the Lakes Estate Conservation Area https://www.pgweb.uk/friends-of-the-lakes-estate-conservation-area and others
Ediz Mevlitt posted a reply
18 Jan 2022 13:43
Oh yes ….. I remember when BSFE tried to overtake it a while ago ….. I thought this was a community page sounds like BSFE and actuality not looking out for the wider community..
Adrian Day posted a reply
18 Jan 2022 14:41
An urban myth, I'm afraid. The new constitution does seem designed to make it difficult for anyone new to join the Committee. I've stopped my Standing Order as a result of these new policies.
Philip Sheffield posted a reply
18 Jan 2022 15:54
The one thing the current committee agreed with the out going committee on was the need to re write and update the constitution. Unfortunately the old committee is suffering from significant amnesia. Last January the outgoing committee tried to cement its place by proposing expelling members of the association who did not sign to very specific requirements. I quote from the document which they tried to railroad through without discussion;
"Termination of Committee or Association membership.
Where a committee member, Officer or Association member has:
• not adhered to our Values and/or
• there has been a serious breach in trust and confidence and/or
• there is sufficient reason to believe that they are not working to help the Association to achieve its Purpose"

In contrast the current committee has come up with detailed and open proposals which will be debated by members at the EGM. We are adherents to democratic principals. The new constitution will be debated by residents and can be altered.

I hope local residents are warmed by the belittling words that Mr Day has chosen to use about our charitable work and help for the vulnerable in our community.

Yours, Philip Sheffield - Chair F LDRA
Adrian Day posted a reply
18 Jan 2022 16:16
If you read my post again you'll see I'm not belittling the charity work or help for the vulnerable (all of which should be applauded) but questioning the need for an organisation doing those things to have such a complex, convoluted constitution. As Houdini almost said ' tie yourself in enough knots and you'll strangle yourself'.
Ann Jones posted a reply
18 Jan 2022 19:43
I’ve been a member for many years and have been helped by FLDRA in relation to trees and planning. The Committee put in a lot of their voluntary time helping the community. I think it is an excellent association and one we should all support.
Karl Brown posted a reply
20 Jan 2022 12:46
Any RA certainly has the potential to be useful but I suspect a simple approach to developing a committee might be better suited to generating a representative body and so be more likely to carry genuine weight with 3rd parties, something like: is a resident, has paid subs, has a pulse.
Sue Beard posted a reply
21 Jan 2022 09:30
Oh dear

First I have hear about this meeting and I pay by dd and live in the same street as the venue. I haven’t changed email addresses,and there is nothing in my spam folder.

. I work for a professional body and often get involved in governance. This is the kind of rules put into place for a thousands of members several million pound operation.
Philip Sheffield posted a reply
28 Jan 2022 12:44
On Wednesday night the changes were debated and amended at an EGM. The agreed new constitution will be viewable on the website of the FLDRA. The meeting was extremely good natured and thorough. We had very helpful suggestions and the final versions of both the Constitution and Code of Conduct were unanimously agreed by a well attended meeting.
Regarding Ms Beard's comments. Her name does not appear on the data base of the FLDRA and she is not subscribed to our mail chimp newsletter. The data base is built on information we received from the outgoing committee last year plus new subscribers. If she believes she is a member please email and we can look into it.
Sue Beard posted a reply
31 Jan 2022 06:56
Hi Philip

I have been a member since 2007. We pay by dd. I will check whether payments have been taken this year and get in touch as you suggest. By the way, you must under dd regulations inform people before payments are taken as this is one of the requirements of the dd scheme . Sorry I have to think about these things all day!

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