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The following is a brief outline of some of the points raised at the Palmers Green Ward Forum on 8th February.

There is another summary, by Sarah Dodgson, on the Enfield Voices Facebook page, produced as part of the Enfield Voices Citizen Journalism initiative.  There is also a video recording of the meeting made by Francis Sealey that he live streamed on Facebook (which not everyone can view - I'm one of those who can't, so I'm relying entirely on the notes I made at the meeting).

photoAttendees

Safer Neighbourhood Team briefing

Crime/Anti-Social Behaviour

Controlled parking zones

Cycle Enfield/Green Lanes road layout changes

Redevelopment of the Fox

Shopping parades in Green Lanes

 "Meeting the Housing Challenge in Enfield"

Footnotes

*At the meeting it was stated that Hazelwood Lane was to be one-way, but I think this is incorrect - only the junction with Green Lanes would have been one-way.

**My view is that having the lines set back is good, showing that pedestrians and cyclists travelling along Green Lanes have precedence over cars emerging from side roads.  When a driver sees there are no pedestrians or bicycles coming, they can then move forward to the end of the road and wait there.

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Joe Mark O'Connor posted a reply
12 Feb 2018 14:59
I just like to say a huge Thank-you to Councillors Ahmet Oykener and Mary Maguire for discussing and taking a interest in my suggestions and views on reviving PG and Green Lanes Shopping parades and planting more trees or other greenery in the area. This will give it a uplifting and more approachable feel for shoppers then it does at this present moment, we need more added greenery not only to be surrounded by beauty but more importantly to combat air pollution which will be beneficial to our health and we must also keep our community shops booming by giving them TLC...
David Hughes posted a reply
12 Feb 2018 18:07
At the foot his notes of the February 8th February 2018 meeting of the Palmers Green Ward Forum Basil Clarke wrote this:

"My view is that having the lines set back is good, showing that pedestrians and cyclists travelling along Green Lanes have precedence over cars emerging from side roads. When a driver sees there are no pedestrians or bicycles coming, they can then move forward to the end of the road and wait there."

I agree with him, and at first that was how it was. But during my most recent two or three rides the tendency has seemed to be driving straight up to the point where the driver can see the traffic (though steadily), which can be a car's width into the carriageway. I suspect that this change has arisen because there are few cyclists so far, and hopefully things will improve as increasing numbers of people cycle. In the meantime cyclist would do well to keep a sharp look out.

Commenting on drivers' approach to cyclists generally I'd say that most pass too closely, especially where room is tight, for example on narrow side roads with continuous lines of parked vehicles on both sides of the road. Feels like impatience to me, and I understand the attitude of mind given the freedom drivers have had to make their own rules, but times 'they are a changing'. On the assumption that the cycle lanes do become a success there will be a need for much more driver patience/care on o road generally.

And finally: I happened to be cycling when the rain came down hard last Saturday morning, and subjectively it seemed that drivers were driving more quickly, and by and large , closer to me. Almost as if , like me, they would be happy to get there.
Karl Brown posted a reply
13 Feb 2018 16:23
Collaboration inevitable beats conflict, as with communicating vs shouting. Good news, well done. (Green) Fingers crossed.
Mary Maguire posted a reply
15 Feb 2018 08:31
A minor correction to the notes:

Under the item CPZ (Controlled Parking Zones): it should read that residents in Windsor Road and Elmdale Road are organising petitions for CPZs. When they have gathered enough signatures, the petitions will be submitted to the Council, after which the consultation process will begin.

Thanks Mary. I've corrected the original article. Basil
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