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Following three public consultations and discussions with Enfield planning officers, the planning application for the redevelopment of the former Middlesex University campus in Trent Park will go before the Planning Committee on Tuesday 18th July.

Berkeley Homes are applying to refurbish the mansion and some other historic buildings, demolish most of the more recent former university buildings and create a total of 262 residential units.

A notable inclusion in the plans is the reservation of 980 square metres on the ground floor and basement of the mansion to be used as a museum and cafe.  This represents a success for the Save Trent Park and Trent Park Museum campaigns, one of whose aims has been the creation of the museum, which would celebrate both the mansion's aristocratic past (in particular, its occupation by the Sasoon family) and its use during World War II for a top secret intelligence gathering operation.

The planning meeting is open to the public (7.30pm at the Civic Centre in Silver Street, Enfield Town). The Trent Park Museum Trust are encouraging members of the public to attend to show their support for the museum project.  They are also asking people to contact members of the planning committee to show support for the museum.

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Darren Edgar posted a reply
19 Jul 2017 12:01
Planning successfully achieved, including for a new museum housed in a restored mansion house building.

Wonderful news. Well done Berkeley Homes and also EBC for not repeating previous mistakes!!
PGC Webmaster posted a reply
19 Jul 2017 23:35
The Trent Park Museum Trust is expecting the museum to open in 2020/21, but will have to raise funds before then.

According to one report, the planning permission granted by Enfield Council will have to be ratified by the Mayor of London.
Darren Edgar posted a reply
20 Jul 2017 10:25
Green Belt means it needs sign off but very unlikely to be anything more than a rubber stamps. Mayor has already conducted and signed off a financial viability assessment:

https://www.london.gov.uk/decisions/add2125-trent-park-financial-viability-independent-assessment
Colin Younger posted a reply
22 Jul 2017 21:22
What was very striking about the papers which the Planning Committee considered was how much of the crucial detail was still not settled. These "details" were left to be settled between the planners and the applicants, by conditions to be applied after Committee approval.

I wonder how much of this will be made public? My expectation is that we won't find out until the buildings are completed. The other trick is to look for applications for so called "non-material" amendments to the approved plans which can have dramatic effects on the appearance of buildings and which are not easy to keep track of. I'm not even sure whether they are advertised for public comment.

Huge effort goes in to consultation and scrutiny of the main application, what happens later when the fuss dies way is another matter.
Darren Edgar posted a reply
24 Jul 2017 12:12
What sort of "details" exactly?
Colin Younger posted a reply
24 Jul 2017 12:54
There are dozens of references in the paper submitted to the Planing Committee to the need for conditions and conditions yet to be agreed. Pages 50-59 summarise these. Not all are of equal significance, but the number of things still to be agreed is striking. These concern almost every aspect of the plan and its execution.
Darren Edgar posted a reply
24 Jul 2017 13:40
Some actual examples would help inform the discussion, as in are we talking about something as trivial as what colour the doors will be stained, or what type of grass will be used on the lawns, or colour gravel on the new walkways etc??
Darren Edgar posted a reply
24 Jul 2017 14:43
In case anyone wants the have a look:

http://planningandbuildingcontrol.enfield.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=ODW701JN00900

Several hundred documents there, a lot of which are an interesting read. Huge improvement from what we have now, and would otherwise be left with, and better than its degenerating University use also (Enfield don't like you pointing out the Uni would still be there if not for EBC planning committee failings....).
Colin Younger posted a reply
24 Jul 2017 14:50
Look at the the report to the Committee, the link to which can be found early in this thread, but broad categories include Ecological plans, materials and design details. I attach two paras giving some idea of these.

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Darren Edgar posted a reply
24 Jul 2017 17:03
Thanks. All looks pretty standard & rudimentary, certainly no reason to further delay the much needed investment in the site and the regeneration of what would otherwise become a pile of Grade II listed rubble. Fundamentals are all covered in the D&A, and various amendments & drawings, in the main application.
PGC Webmaster posted a reply
24 Jul 2017 18:53
The version of the report to the planning committee that is on the planning applications database is defective, with many pages missing. The complete report is at https://governance.enfield.gov.uk/documents/s64077/16.04324.FUL%20-%20Committee%20Report%20F.pdf
PGC Webmaster posted a reply
26 Jul 2017 18:05


This photo of a model of the Trent Park redevelopment was posted to the Trent Park Museum Twitter feed. @TrentParkMuseum